The last couple of weeks have been crazy busy with work and other commitments. While I haven't been out cycling and walking around Oakland as much, I have gotten in some Oakland-y goodness like a private Oakland Urban Paths walk (as a fundraiser for another non-profit), a trip to the Oakland History Room, a Black Panther history walk in North Oakland (post coming), dinner at The Dock at Linden Street (post coming), talked with Tina Tamale about Oakland history and my upcoming book (post coming), and a few other things, but I've had almost no time to write about any of them. This shot is returning from Alameda on Sunday. K and I went to see her niece perform as Donkey in Shrek: The Musical. It was a lot of fun, but left me wishing for a longer weekend to do more writing. This week won't see a lot of Our Oakland posts, either...we're taking a longer weekend and going camping. Oakland, country, world: please be nice to each other (for a change) while we're gone. #thatisall
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Showing posts with label Jingletown. Show all posts
Monday, August 18, 2014
photo of the week: outside looking in
The last couple of weeks have been crazy busy with work and other commitments. While I haven't been out cycling and walking around Oakland as much, I have gotten in some Oakland-y goodness like a private Oakland Urban Paths walk (as a fundraiser for another non-profit), a trip to the Oakland History Room, a Black Panther history walk in North Oakland (post coming), dinner at The Dock at Linden Street (post coming), talked with Tina Tamale about Oakland history and my upcoming book (post coming), and a few other things, but I've had almost no time to write about any of them. This shot is returning from Alameda on Sunday. K and I went to see her niece perform as Donkey in Shrek: The Musical. It was a lot of fun, but left me wishing for a longer weekend to do more writing. This week won't see a lot of Our Oakland posts, either...we're taking a longer weekend and going camping. Oakland, country, world: please be nice to each other (for a change) while we're gone. #thatisall
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South Kennedy Tract
Location:
Fruitvale Bridge, Oakland, CA 94601, USA
Tuesday, April 15, 2014
Oakland Urban Paths: Jingletown and the Estuary
On a foggy Saturday morning, 40 people (plus a record 7 dogs) turned out to explore Jingletown and the Estuary with Oakland Urban Paths. While we gathered at the former Cryer & Sons Boatyard at Union Point Park, we watched some whaleboat races in the channel near Coast Guard Island.
By the time we got underway, the sun was starting to break through the fog and it warmed up quickly. A short walk took us to the controversial Sigame sculpture, which features pieces of different notable women from Oakland's history. Chris Kidd also told us about the clever approach used to clean up the land for Union Point Park, encapsulating the soil into the spiral mound at the center instead of trucking it off for remediation. At the south end of the park, the Bay Trail leaves the waterfront because the ConAgra Mill still uses its waterfront access (in addition to railroad trains, which we saw evidence of later). That was a recurring theme of outbound walk—while access is getting better, there are still lots of gaps in the Bay Trail.
Along the way, we saw a new mural being painted by Ernest Doty and some other Oakland artists, the Fruitvale and High Street bridges opened to allow a sailboat through, the outflow of Sausal Creek into the estuary, and more. We went as far as High Street; to go further would mean another departure from the waterfront and a walk along a heavily industrial road.
Our return trip wandered through Jingletown to check out the various public works of art: murals, mosaics and sculptures. There are artworks around every corner, and even a few painted on the street. It's definitely worth visiting Jingletown when there are open studios or other events to see more. Thanks to everyone and everywoof who came out for the walk!
More pictures of the walk from Alan Forkosh can be seen on Alan's website.
More pictures from the walk:
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OUP,
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Monday, July 15, 2013
Oakland Urban Paths: Jingletown and the estuary

Saturday we had the biggest turnout ever for an Oakland Urban Paths walk, about 85 people and at least four dogs. We met at the north end of Union Point Park to explore Jingletown and along the estuary for one of the most 'urban' walks that we've done.
First we heard from OUP walk leader Chris Kidd about the creation of Union Point Park as part of Measure DD. In a clever cost-cutting move, instead of trucking contaminated soil off-site, they encapsulated it in a mound in the park. One of the sources of the industrial contamination was Cryer & Sons Boatyard, a historic business that now sits vacant, awaiting cleanup for public use. Probably the most famous boat built there was a 130-foot yacht for Cliff Durant of Durant Motors which built cars in East Oakland in the 1920s.
We walked through the park, with a brief stop at the "Sigame" sculpture, which remembers 20 women from Oakland's history. Although we were following the Bay Trail, we came to our first departure from the waterfront. A grain mill currently owned by ConAgra still has access to the waterfront, plus there's a concrete plant, and there are no crosswalks across 29th Avenue and the maze of streets near the Park Street Bridge.
We rejoined the Bay Trail by going through the Waterfront Lofts. Part of the agreement to build housing and develop the Bay Trail was to allow public access to the trail. So there's a gate at each end of the lofts that allows people access between Glasock Street and the waterfront. Another part of the complex development was a land swap, which gave the Cal Crew a larger lot and moved part of the historic Ky Ebright boathouse.
We walked almost to the Fruitvale Bridge when we hit another obstacle. Although it has gates that are supposed to be open, a building near the bridge had locked gates that meant another detour. We walked up past the warehouse for the Oakland Museum of California's White Elephant Sale, down a railroad right-of-way, and back down to the waterfront.
There we walked through the tiny Fruitvale Bridge Park, where Sausal Creek flows into the estuary. Across the street is the massive Owens-Illinois glass factory, one of the few heavy industries still in the area.
We continued along the estuary to High Street and stopped next to the High Street Bridge. At this point the Bay Trail goes away from the water again, through a heavily industrialized area. From there we backtracked, then went to explore Jingletown.
The Jingletown neighborhood is full of artists and art studios. But it's also full of public art, with numerous mosaics gracing the walls of area buildings, and quirky sculptures and paintings awaiting the curious. We stopped by the Rue de Merde art wall, and some people headed over to Kefa Coffee for coffee or a snack, while the rest of us hung out in the shade in front of the Gray Loft Gallery or continued exploring the art wall.
After that, we headed back to our starting point in Union Point Park to finish our walk.
If you're interested in the future of the Bay Trail, Waterfront Action is working to continue to improve the continuity and access for the Bay Trail as part of Measure DD. One big project remaining is the construction of paths around each of the three bridges.
Also of note, the folks at the historic Cotton Mill Studios in Jingletown will be having an open studio event called F3 on Friday, July 19th. It's a chance to check out the work local artists and fashion designers, plus get a peek at the historic building.
Another great walk. Thanks to Chris Kidd for leading us, and to everyone and everywoof that came out for the walk. The next walk will be the usual second Saturday, on Saturday, August 10th at 10am. The location is yet to be determined, but you can check the website or sign up for the email list to get all the details.
Lots more pictures from the walk:
Additional links
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OUP,
South Kennedy Tract
Sunday, July 7, 2013
photo of the week: boom!

Wondering why it was so loud in Oakland on July 4th, and why it seemed like the noise was never going to stop? That's because people dropped some serious money on illegal fireworks. This is part of a pile of spent fireworks at Union Point Park. There were other smaller piles, and even a few cases where people had dragged the remains over by the overflowing trash cans, but it all added up to a lot of money gone in a flash.
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Monday, April 29, 2013
Slow Art Day
Saturday was Slow Art Day, an event that's been going on worldwide since 2009. It basically goes exactly opposite what many people's interaction with art is these days. Instead of shuffling through a museum trying to see as much as you can, or squeezing through a crowded gallery opening or First Friday event glancing at what you can, it encourages participants to really slow down and look at art. Instead of the average of less than 10 seconds, people spend 5 to 10 minutes with a single piece. After the specified time, they move to another, and so on. Afterwards participants get together to discuss their experiences.
The Slow Art Day event that K and I attended on Saturday was hosted by Jan Watten of Gray Loft Gallery in Jingletown. The gallery is currently featuring The Big Painting Show: Layers of Abstraction by 8 Bay Area Artists. There are 15 or so large pieces on display, and there were fewer participants, so it was a peaceful rotation to a new painting when the time had elapsed. The whole experience was very contemplative. Jan had classical music playing softly in the background, and a gentle harp sound to let us know when the time had elapsed.
K had to leave before the discussion (and sadly, before the lovely vegetarian lunch Jan provided), but to me the first part was worth experiencing and doing again, if nothing else. After spending 10 minutes of so in front of a number of pieces, we gathered for lunch and to discuss what we'd seen. Although most of the people in attendance were artists, only once or twice did the conversation veer into the off-putting "well this person clearly studied this artist/school of art, and what I learned in art school was..." Mostly it was about what people noticed in the paintings by slowing down to examine them carefully, what they liked or didn't, what the paintings made them feel. To me, it was simply a great opportunity to be forced to slow down and examine paintings I might not have given more than 10 seconds to otherwise.
Six 10-Minute Silences With Art
1. The blue-green places of rest
within the movement:
how beautiful that a stranger
created this space
for me.
-chime-
2. It's a story, and I'm in it:
I've bitten the white part of the rind,
startling, pale, and dry
but I also know about the juicy red
perfect sticky
watermelon's heart.
-chime-
3. How embarrassing to like it:
the cherry-chip cake I always
asked my mom for on my birthday—
pink, thick
obscenely sweet frosting—
But!
-chime-
4. But!
I have to stay here:
a cloud-shrouded island
floats under the pink—
the "accidents" of the paint,
its omissions and splatter:
these are back doors left unlocked
to let in possibility,
a quiet midnight visitor.
-chime-
5. Leave me alone with this:
If I speak of it now
it might disappear...
-chime-
6.
-chime-
by K, 2013
Read more about Slow Art Day on Artnews.
More photos from Slow Art Day at Gray Loft Gallery:
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Jingletown
Sunday, October 21, 2012
Fruitvale Bike Tour

Sunday morning, the Oakland Museum of California (OMCA) led a bicycle tour of the Fruitvale district. There was a small group led by OMCA docent Peter Barnett, who's been leading bike tours for the museum for over a decade. We met outside the museum, where preparations were under way for the a Dia de los Muertos celebration that afternoon.
We rode past the Kaiser Convention Center, which was used among other things as a temporary hospital during the 1918 flu pandemic. We crossed the channel to Lake Merritt and learned a bit about its history, then rode to Clinton Square park. There we heard about Milton Latham, who was governor of California for 5 days before resigning to become one of the U.S. Senators from California. That was precipitated by the previous senator, David Broderick, being killed in a duel with former state supreme court justice David Terry.
Our meandering path took us along the estuary, past Numi Tea and Coast Guard Island. We headed up Fruitvale Avenue, around Fruitvale Station, and up 34th Avenue to Peralta Hacienda. After some history about the Peralta family, we heard about nearby Patten University. It was founded in 1944 by Dr. Bebe Patten as the Oakland Bible Institute. We also heard some of the more colorful history; her husband C. Thomas Patten went to trial in 1950 for defrauding their followers. During the 3 1/2-month trial, he had a heart attack, and the trial was finished in a hospital on Pill Hill. He served time in San Quentin and died in 1958. Dr. Patten moved the institution to its current location on Coolidge in 1961.
Reminiscent of the 5 houses bike tour, from Peralta Hacienda we went to Cohen-Bray House. We rode back towards Jingletown to see the Cotton Mill Studios, and from there, back towards the museum.
Although I knew a lot of the information from the tour, I did learn things, and I enjoyed getting to know part of Oakland a little bit better.
More pictures from the tour:
Related links and things I told people about:
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Jingletown,
Oak Tree,
OMCA,
Patten,
Rancho San Antonio,
Saint Elizabeth
Monday, January 9, 2012
signs: 400 Club / El Potrillo 400
Here's a two-fer with signs, an old version and the new. In the middle of Jingletown near the Park St. bridge from Alameda is El Potrillo 400 Restaurant and and Bar. El Potrillo is "the foal", as you might guess from the sign (though the icon makes me think horse or stallion.) But not that long ago, the bar was called 400 Club. The 400 part of the name makes sense because it's at 400 29th Avenue. But why the name change? I haven't been to the bar, before or after the rename, so I can only speculate. Maybe 400 Club sounded too much like Pat Robertson's 700 Club?
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Jingletown,
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Location:
400 29th Ave, Oakland, CA 94601, USA
Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Jingletown Holiday Art Walk
This past weekend was the annual Jingletown Holiday Art Walk. The area is full of artists working in different media, and regularly have open studios to show it off.
It's also just an interesting place to walk around. In part because the area is decorated with mosaics, murals and sculptures created by the local artists. It's a fun, funky place. I went to a lot of different studios, but I don't think I hit all of them:
Special shout-outs to Jan Watten who put it all together, and to Fernando Reyes, who designed the piece that was used for the 2011 Art Walk logo.
Lots more photos:
Also check out the great photos by Howard Dyckoff on Oakland Local.
It's also just an interesting place to walk around. In part because the area is decorated with mosaics, murals and sculptures created by the local artists. It's a fun, funky place. I went to a lot of different studios, but I don't think I hit all of them:
- Kathy Cronin, photography, czphotoart.net
- Jill Gibson, sculpture and jewelry, gibsonarts.com
- Delanie Hackney, mosaic portraits and mixed media, delainemosaic.com
- Susan Laing, handfelted textiles
- Grant Marcoux, metalwork, grantsforge.com
- Jill McLennan, paintings, prints & ornaments, jillmclennan.com
- Bill Silveira, metal, automaniastudios.com
- Sarah Swell, jewelry, sarahswell.com
- Susan Tuttle, jewelry and photography
- Deborah Weber, stained glass holiday items, deborahweber.com
- Jon Zax, photography & stuff, lotuscolor.net
- Mary McDonald, oil on canvas, marymcdonaldfineart.com
- Nancy LaRose, leather, paper, ceramics, nancyklarose.com
- Jan Watten, photography, janwatten.com
- Stephanie Williamson, photography, swilliamsonphoto.com
- Karyn Yandow, photography, artslant.com/karynyandow
- Russ Osterweil, Photography, rofoto.com
- Lisa Levine, photography
- Peter Tonningsen, photography, petertonningsen.com
- Institute of Mosaic Art, multiple artists, mosaics
- Elena Baikova, painting
- Peter Dreyfuss, Steel Sculpture, peterdreyfuss.com
- Todd c. Hartman, photography, LIGHTBondage.Info
- Chris Kanyusik, ceramic sculpture, chriskanyusik.com
- Larry Lesterud, photography
- Sage Moore, sculpture - clay, plaster
- Stan Peterson, wood sculpture & drawings, stan-peterson.com
- Fernando Reyes, painting, printmaking, drawing, freyesart.com
- Mariah Carle, photography, bayareaboudoir.com
- PJ Reptilehouse, photography, pjreptilehouse.com
- Petey Barma, resin jewelry, sculpture, furniture
- Laurel Davis, found objects, concrete wares, resurrected vintage furniture, lancasterlaboratory.com
- Danielle Feinberg, photography, ink drawings, mixed media, daniellefeinberg.com
- Bret Parker, prints, textiles, clothing, accessories and pillows
- Kimberly Russell, watercolor, kimrlustudios.com
Special shout-outs to Jan Watten who put it all together, and to Fernando Reyes, who designed the piece that was used for the 2011 Art Walk logo.
Lots more photos:
Also check out the great photos by Howard Dyckoff on Oakland Local.
Labels:
art,
Jingletown
Location:
Ford St, Oakland, CA, USA
Friday, September 30, 2011
Jingletown Open Studios
Last Saturday, the Exchange Studios in Jingletown had open studios for a number of the artists living there. It was a much lower-key event than something like the Art Murmur, and so I got a chance to chat with different artists. A nice reminder that bigger isn't always better. And to get out there and check out artists in Oakland.



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Location:
527 23rd Ave, Oakland, CA 94606, USA
Monday, May 9, 2011
upcoming art events
Besides various events like Bike to Work Day coming up, there are a number of art events in the coming weeks:
Reconstructed World - Friday, May 13, at the San Pablo Arts District. It's a video exhibit put on by di Rosa Art.
Oakland Indie Awards - Friday, May 13 - The 5th annual celebration of Oakland artists and businesses. The party will be held at the Kaiser Center roof garden, with lots of Oakland food, music and art on hand.
Mururama - Saturday, May 21 in many of the usual Art Murmur locations. Murmurama is a special event during the weekend of the San Francisco Art Fairs.
Jingletown Arts Walk - June 4-5 in Jingletown. The Arts Walk is a chance to see what artists in Jingletown are up to. The area is known for mosaics, but there's a lot else going on there, too.
East Bay Open Studios - June 4-5 and 11-12, all over Oakland. There are hundreds of artists participating, all over Oakland and the East Bay. Check the handy map for locations.
First Friday - June 3 in various locations. There's the Art Murmur, of course, but there's also the Midtown Arts District First Friday Art Walk. (The name 'midtown' is somewhat unclear, but the locations are in what I consider Uptown and Downtown, or Oaksterdam, if you prefer.) And there are other art events that take place on First Fridays in Oakland.
Reconstructed World - Friday, May 13, at the San Pablo Arts District. It's a video exhibit put on by di Rosa Art.Oakland Indie Awards - Friday, May 13 - The 5th annual celebration of Oakland artists and businesses. The party will be held at the Kaiser Center roof garden, with lots of Oakland food, music and art on hand.
Mururama - Saturday, May 21 in many of the usual Art Murmur locations. Murmurama is a special event during the weekend of the San Francisco Art Fairs.
Jingletown Arts Walk - June 4-5 in Jingletown. The Arts Walk is a chance to see what artists in Jingletown are up to. The area is known for mosaics, but there's a lot else going on there, too.
East Bay Open Studios - June 4-5 and 11-12, all over Oakland. There are hundreds of artists participating, all over Oakland and the East Bay. Check the handy map for locations.First Friday - June 3 in various locations. There's the Art Murmur, of course, but there's also the Midtown Arts District First Friday Art Walk. (The name 'midtown' is somewhat unclear, but the locations are in what I consider Uptown and Downtown, or Oaksterdam, if you prefer.) And there are other art events that take place on First Fridays in Oakland.
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Downtown,
Gaskill,
Golden Gate,
Jingletown,
Uptown
Tuesday, April 12, 2011
Numi Tea
Not only is Oakland home to a number of wineries and an awesome brewery, it's home to an organic tea producer, Numi Tea. Numi has a lovely tea garden on site, as well.
You might have seen some of their teas in stores. Probably only 5 or 6 varieties; 10 or 12 if it's a well-stocked store. But Numi has dozens a varieties of teas: green teas, black teas, oolong teas, pue-rh teas, white teas, herbal teas, and sold both in individual packets for convenience and loose-leaf for lower cost and less packaging. If you're like me, you'll probably be overwhelmed by the options. The good news is that Numi knows teas, and can give you pointers on selecting ones you'll like. You can also learn about tea, how and where it's grown, the different varieties and the health benefits.
In many parts of the world, drinking tea is part of everyday life; in others it can be a cultural experience unto itself. At Numi's tea garden, you can relax and take part in the experience of tea drinking. The tea garden (and Numi's warehouse and production facility) is in Jingletown (aka North Kennedy Tract) between 880 and Coast Guard Island. (It's also near Irish Monkey Cellars and Stage Left Cellars.) An area filled with warehouses and converted lofts next to a freeway doesn't sound very relaxing, but inside the tea garden it is.
Numi's tea drinking experience begins with selecting a seat, whether on one of the hand-made wooden stools, or near the softly falling water of the fountain. I decided to try a pu-erh tea. I actually spent a summer in the Yunnan province of China where it originates, but I can't recall specifically having had it (in defense of my memory, it was 20+ years ago.) I relaxed, listened to the fountain, and read my book. After a short while, my tea was delivered. Hot water was poured over the dragon/frog thing (which is for luck, I think), some hot water poured into the tea cup to warm it, and the rest poured into a clay pot for the tea to steep. The tray also has a timer with 3 parts, for 3, 4 and 5 minutes. Four minutes was suggested for my tea, so I flipped the timer and continued reading. The whole process involves waiting, which once you get into it, can be very relaxing. I read, I glanced at the timer, I listened to the sound of the falling water. After the tea had steeped, I poured it through a filter into a glass pot, and from that poured myself a cup. The pu-erh tea I had was very tasty, and the whole experience quite lovely and relaxing. I sipped tea, read, and relaxed. I'm honestly not sure how long I was there.
Before I hopped on my bike to head to my next destination, I purchased some loose-leaf teas that I knew my wife and I would enjoy: some of the pu-erh I'd just had, some Rooibos (from South Africa), and some Honeybush (also from South Africa). If you're a regular tea drinker, or just looking for a relaxing experience in Oakland, I highly recommend checking out Numi Tea.
You might have seen some of their teas in stores. Probably only 5 or 6 varieties; 10 or 12 if it's a well-stocked store. But Numi has dozens a varieties of teas: green teas, black teas, oolong teas, pue-rh teas, white teas, herbal teas, and sold both in individual packets for convenience and loose-leaf for lower cost and less packaging. If you're like me, you'll probably be overwhelmed by the options. The good news is that Numi knows teas, and can give you pointers on selecting ones you'll like. You can also learn about tea, how and where it's grown, the different varieties and the health benefits.
In many parts of the world, drinking tea is part of everyday life; in others it can be a cultural experience unto itself. At Numi's tea garden, you can relax and take part in the experience of tea drinking. The tea garden (and Numi's warehouse and production facility) is in Jingletown (aka North Kennedy Tract) between 880 and Coast Guard Island. (It's also near Irish Monkey Cellars and Stage Left Cellars.) An area filled with warehouses and converted lofts next to a freeway doesn't sound very relaxing, but inside the tea garden it is.
Numi's tea drinking experience begins with selecting a seat, whether on one of the hand-made wooden stools, or near the softly falling water of the fountain. I decided to try a pu-erh tea. I actually spent a summer in the Yunnan province of China where it originates, but I can't recall specifically having had it (in defense of my memory, it was 20+ years ago.) I relaxed, listened to the fountain, and read my book. After a short while, my tea was delivered. Hot water was poured over the dragon/frog thing (which is for luck, I think), some hot water poured into the tea cup to warm it, and the rest poured into a clay pot for the tea to steep. The tray also has a timer with 3 parts, for 3, 4 and 5 minutes. Four minutes was suggested for my tea, so I flipped the timer and continued reading. The whole process involves waiting, which once you get into it, can be very relaxing. I read, I glanced at the timer, I listened to the sound of the falling water. After the tea had steeped, I poured it through a filter into a glass pot, and from that poured myself a cup. The pu-erh tea I had was very tasty, and the whole experience quite lovely and relaxing. I sipped tea, read, and relaxed. I'm honestly not sure how long I was there.
Before I hopped on my bike to head to my next destination, I purchased some loose-leaf teas that I knew my wife and I would enjoy: some of the pu-erh I'd just had, some Rooibos (from South Africa), and some Honeybush (also from South Africa). If you're a regular tea drinker, or just looking for a relaxing experience in Oakland, I highly recommend checking out Numi Tea.
Labels:
drink,
Embarcadero,
Jingletown
Thursday, March 18, 2010
Oakland: an industrial city?
Forget arguing about 'view corridors'. The real question about Oakland's future is whether it wants to be an industrial city again or not.
An article in the Wall Street Journal says the city wants West Oakland to be a 'clean-technology, manufacturing and industrial hub', but that doesn't sit well with all West Oakland residents. It would, however, be a return to some of West Oakland's historical roots, which besides the western terminus of the transcontinental railroad, had a number of less-clean industries like the Phoenix Iron Works. More recently West Oakland has seen housing being developed.
In the Oakland Tribune, this article talks about the desire to create more housing near the estuary in what's currently largely an industrial area. But Oakland City Councilmember Ignacio De La Fuente is opposed to a similar proposal for the nearby Owens-Brockway Glass Containers plant.
What's the right answer? I don't know enough to know. But I would hate to see the glass recycling plant closed for more housing, as Oakland currently has enough housing even if it's not all affordable, but not enough jobs.
An article in the Wall Street Journal says the city wants West Oakland to be a 'clean-technology, manufacturing and industrial hub', but that doesn't sit well with all West Oakland residents. It would, however, be a return to some of West Oakland's historical roots, which besides the western terminus of the transcontinental railroad, had a number of less-clean industries like the Phoenix Iron Works. More recently West Oakland has seen housing being developed.
In the Oakland Tribune, this article talks about the desire to create more housing near the estuary in what's currently largely an industrial area. But Oakland City Councilmember Ignacio De La Fuente is opposed to a similar proposal for the nearby Owens-Brockway Glass Containers plant.
What's the right answer? I don't know enough to know. But I would hate to see the glass recycling plant closed for more housing, as Oakland currently has enough housing even if it's not all affordable, but not enough jobs.
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